Yes. Logged First introduced in 1907, the .44 Special was notedlike its predecessorfor being controllable, accurate and potent enough for most purposes including law enforcement and sport shooting. However, Uberti offers an excellent replica of the Model #3 Russian chambered in .44 Russian which is safe with reasonable smokeless loads. In time it set many records, eventually becoming known as an established target round,[1] enabling skilled shooters to achieve 3-inch (76mm) groups at 50 yards (46m); notable for the time and still impressive today. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Contest void where prohibited by law. The shank of the bullet fitting inside the brass case was smaller in diameter than the portion of the bullet in front of the case. (II) Limit one entry per household. Quad-ported by Mag-Na-Port and put a 500 S&W Hogue recoil absorbing grip on it. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Just FYI, I've had alot of trigger time behind a .44 mag (Smith 6.5" 629-4 Classic Hunter all different loads, from 180s to DoubleTap's 320s) and a respectable amount behind the 460XVR (8 3/8" and a little time with a 2.5" -ouch!- shooting primarily the Hornady LevRev 200gr load), and a tiny bit with a Smith 500 Mag.if anyone wondered about . Except he disliked the two-diameter heel-type bullet used in .44/100. The load pushed that hefty projectile out the muzzle at 780 feet per second. Lighter loads. Using a .44 special case the 800fps load requires 5.5 gr of Bullseye. These were advertised as being chambered for the .44 Colt/Russian because they will also shoot the .44 Russian cartridges. Shooting 44 Specials And 44 Russians In Our 44 Magnums For That Extra Hoot FortuneCookie45LC 63.6K subscribers Subscribe 5.5K views 5 years ago The often mentioned fouling and residue buildup. As a cartridge for the Hand Ejector, First Model .44 (nicknamed triplelock) they introduced a wild and crazy idea. The R92 is a clone of the Winchester Model 1892, one of the earliest and greatest lever-action .44 Magnum rifles ever produced. YES every one should have at one .44 special, I had an early Charters Arms Target Bulldog, it was stolen and now I carry a Taurus 431. However, the weight of the gun and the weight of the projectile its firing also affect the amount of recoil produced. [2], In the early 1870s, General Alexander Gorloff, the military attach assigned to the Russian Embassy in Washington, D.C., approached Smith & Wesson about the possibility of negotiating a military sales contract for the purchase of a large number of Smith & Wesson Model 3 revolvers for the Imperial Russian Army. Sort By. Some .44 Magnum sixguns will shoot the shorter .44 Special loads well while others give mediocre performance. The 44 Magnum can be a real beast, loud blast and heavy recoil. Magnum for four-legged adversaries and Special for two-legged predators. Handloaders can choose from almost every bullet style under the sun. Handgun Cowboy Action Maybe you're involved with formal, sanctioning organizations for Cowboy Action shooting. Contest void where prohibited by law. However, it may be necessary to shorten a .44 Magnum/.44 Special expanding die as well as a seater/crimper die to be able to reach the relatively short .44 Russian case. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. While theres no doubt the .44 Rem Mag puts a ton more speed and energy downrange, that performance comes with a price. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Factory loads carried either smokeless or black powder. Heres the early .44 Smith & Wesson cartridges, (left to right) .44 American, Russian and Special. I'm not set up for reloading .44 Russian, but I would expect that if they were flat-nosed bullets of some type the forward pressure would be more stable and the bullets wouldn't bind up. However, this cartridge is ultra-mild in the recoil department while still providing plenty of accuracy and energy at self-defense ranges. The .44 Mag. Loading the 44 russian may need a new die or two. There are many loads for both .44 Special and .44 Magnum that satisfy the FBI standard of 12 to 18 inches of penetration in ballistic gel through 4 layers of denim. Possibly the bullet seater will also be too long. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. S&W introduced their first metallic cartridge-firing revolver in 1870. You can safely shoot .44 Russian ammunition in any .44 Magnum or .44 Special revolver. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 44 Russian in a 44 Mag. I use the M29, but I handload for in between load (20gr 2400 Keith lead bullet)! Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. The .44 Special is a lengthened version of the .44 Russian cartridge, which was chambered in top-break S&W Model No. Base diameter on Russian is .457. The spread was reduced to 14 fps using wadcutters with Clays. Mag. concealable plenty of HP and with 3 speed loaders i feel i have enough for most any situation. Ruger offers a couple of 5-shot GP100 models as well as the Blackhawk Bisley in .44 Special, the latter being a subtle nod to Elmer Keith's Revolver No. I put a Dr Pearson tacrail on it and a saddle ring, and a SS follower. The extra length not only accommodated more propellant but also prevented the high-pressure rounds from fitting in older .44 Spl handguns, eliminating the concern that the traditional wheel guns might not hold up to the new magnum load. With improved firearm metallurgy available, Smith & Wesson increased the bullet weight of the new cartridge to 246 grains while retaining a heavy 23-grain black-powder propellant charge, which almost equaled that of the .44 American and produced a muzzle velocity of roughly 750ft/s. For loading I use Oregon Trails 225- and 240-gr. Mechanical accuracy has an enormous number of variables. and the case is the same outside diameter. (II) Limit one entry per household. Nothing spectacular happened, but you wouldn't want to reload the cases. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if needed) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. The .44 Magnum is more popular for metallic silhouette shooting (such as IMSSU events) given the flatter trajectory and greater power. Where .44 Special shines the most in comparison to its bigger brother is having drastically less recoil. Thankfully, manufacturers understand this. Although insanely popular in the early 20th century, the Special almost went the way of the dinosaur after the introduction of its faster, harder-hitting, and more popular younger brother, the .44 Remington Magnum. The heavy recoil and high ammo costs have resulted in a constant supply of lightly used .44 Magnum revolvers since the 1950s. Anybody have any info and/or experience as to using 44 Russian in 44/40 revolversAside from the argument as to whyLooks like it would work finebut I like my face like it is..not full of cylinder pieces.. Won't work and very dangerous. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Keith partnered with Smith & Wesson and Remington Arms and the cartridge was introduced onto the market in 1956. Because the .44 Special has mild recoil and more limited penetration potential, it is the safer option for home defense. RATS 332, Retired Winter Range Board & TG, ACSA TG, Cowtown, others. If these three rounds were interchangeable do you think all the manufacturers would be making dual cylinder guns? Nice article. However, like most pistol cartridges, the .44 Magnum "wakes up" out of a carbine length rifle barrel. If all that cowboy has ever seen is a stockdam, he ain't gonna believe ya when ya tell him about whales. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. The .44 Spl also has a more limited ammo selection. Starline produces ready to load brass and of course any .429/.430 inch lead bullet between about 180 to 250 grains is usable. However, you can shoot .44 Spl ammo in most .44 Magnum firearms. (I) Giveaway ends September 30, 2022. FIOCCHI HERITAGE 44 S&W RUSSIAN 247 gr. Black Powder and the Cowboy Way. Not me ! (Thats Newtons Third Law for those of us whove been out of school for a while. Its amazing what a mere 4.4 grains of extra case capacity can achieve. To prevent the new high-pressure ammunition from being fired in .44 American revolvers with disastrous results, the overall cartridge case length was increased by .06 in to 0.970 in. Photo: Wikipedia. S&W wanted to enter the large frame, swing-out cylinder market. So, basically stopping power is difficult to quantify. Some people use a .428 bullet in 44-40 and that same bullet can be used in 44 Russian and .44 Spl-Mag. They changed the grip frame of the American, adding a small hump at the top of the backstrap, preventing the pistol from sliding in the hand under recoil. Thus was born the S&W .44 Russian, and henceforth the .44/100 was called .44 American. Lever actions and semi-autos chambered in 44 magnum may not (most likely won't) cycle correctly do to the differences in C.O.L. However, bullets changed from 246-gr. Youll find revolvers and semi-auto pistols chambered in .44 Mag. The slower .44 Spl carries less energy. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Choice is yours. I like 'em a lot. In comparison, the .44 Special is softer than a newborn kitten. Stopping the attacker is the goal here, and that doesnt necessarily mean death (although that is often the end result). M. Ayoob had a .44 Magnum converted to .44 Automag. starline has the russian, special, and mag brass all in stock. Although Keith petitioned ammo manufacturers to offer hotter .44 Special loads for hunting, there was understandable concern about what the higher pressure loads would do to older revolvers. (II) Limit one entry per household. I miss shooting them but still have a box and a half sitting on my loading bench. While .44 Special is more than serviceable for medium to smaller game at modest distances, the reality is .44 Magnum has such a good track record that you might as well not bother. The result was I had one ragged hole made by 50 bullets. You can also shoot a mini shotgun shell in it sometimes called snake shot. Should I? A 246 grain round nose lead bullet was never referred to nor does it in anyway resemble a flying ashtray. S&W wanted to enter the large frame, swing-out cylinder market. SWC with a gas check. (In fact, they'll chamber the .44 Special cartridges.) Smith & Wesson released their new wheel gun chambered for a more modern .44-caliber cartridge - the .44 Smith & Wesson Special. When combining these two with a .44 Magnum Carbide sizing die Im not only reliving a major part of sixgun history Im also able to turn out first-class .44 Russian handloads. .44 Russian is .429 same as .44 spl, .44 Mag. 416 Rem Mag; 44-40 Win; 416 Rigby; 416 Ruger; 444 Marlin; 45-60 WCF; 45-70 Government; 450 Bushmaster; . Theres very little difference in overall length, although the .44 Spl case is about an of an inch shorter. They satisfied different requirements: the 44-40 was a rifle cartridge, the 44 Russian a revolver cartridge. It is a single shot proposition. No purchase necessary. However, the opposite isnt true. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. Smith & Wesson developed a .44 frame to contain a power-house cartridge, yet retain the level of accuracy demanded by competitive target shooters. I have a model 329 PD 44 magnum that I put a S&W stainless steel fluted cylinder on and removed the titanium one it came with. then discontinued it again. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. My 130 pound wife can shoot the Ruger. Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics 22LR 40gr HV Copper Plated RN - 50 Rounds. I've been shooting a 44 Mag for over 50 years and have used all manufactures of brass. But as I loaded them into the tube I ran into trouble. On the left Accuracy is a complex formula of ballistics, firearm design, and marksmanship. Its also a favorite of cowboy action shooters and makes a fun plinking tool. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winner(s). Contest open to U.S. residents only. As we said, the .44 Mag has a slightly longer case than the .44 Spl. If recoil is a turn-off, the .44 Spl is probably the better option. Gorloff correctly recognized that such ammunition tends to pick up debris and contaminants which erode the bore when fired, so a qualification of the purchase contract was that Smith & Wesson develop an internally lubricated version of their .44 round. The new magnum case was the .44 Special stretched to 1.29. I miss shooting them but still have a box and a half sitting on my loading bench. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The .44Spl is a wonderful cartridge in the GP-100 and a bit of a handful in the Charter Arms Bulldog Pug when loading jacketed bullets although big, heavy, slow lead bullets work just fine. Your load my be alright for ''tinking" those GIGANTIC STEEL PLATES at 20ft. I use it in, 25-20 (resized from 32-20) , 9MM, 38 Spl, 357 Mag, 40 S&W, 10MM, 44 Russian, 44 Spl, 44 Mag, 45 LC, 454 Casull, 460 S&W and 45-70. These cartridges had one thing in common, they all used bullets with two diameters. The Magnums substantial recoil also makes getting multiple shots on target quickly a real challenge. Theres your answer. Attachments 44 Remington Magnum reduced target loads.doc 57.5 KB Views: 458 For info purposes only, use it at your own risk. Remington engineered the cartridge for the new big-bore wheel gun by lengthening the .44 Spl case. Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. They lengthened .44 Russians case to 1.16, using the exact same 246-gr. In response, Smith & Wesson developed the first double-action .44 Magnum revolver in 1955. and operating pressures between itself and it's predecessors. At typical self-defense ranges, there isnt time to see serious bullet drop or wind drift. bullet at a similar velocity of about 750 fps. Velocity spreads with Titegroup shrank from 65 fps with RNFP bullets to 20 fps with wadcutters. Colt introduced its solid-frame, single-action Model P in 1873. Both the .44 Spl and the .44 Magnum are popular cartridges among hand loaders. Ammo: Elk, Deer And Everything Else, 10 Best Long-Range Cartridges of All Time (2023), 8 On-Target Concealed Carry Insurance Options (2022), 10 Affordable Double-Barrel Shotgun Options (2022), Best AR-15 Options For Any Budget And Buyers Guide (2022), Best Concealed Carry Handguns For Women (2022). However, be aware that lever-action rifles can be fairly ammunition-sensitive. The genesis of the .44 Magnum was a group of tinkerers, cowboys and gun nuts who werent satisfied with factory loads. First model .44 Russian Model #3s looked identical to the companys .44 Americans, but soon the Russians wanted some changes. The .44 Spls ballistics arent too far off from the .45 ACP, which remains a popular option for both law enforcement and civilian personal defense. 30 Super Carry; 429 DE Magnum; 8mm Lebel; 9x21mm IMI; 9x23 Win . With the same 225-grain cast bullet, the .45 Schofield's velocity ranges were clearly improved compared to the .45 Colt's velocity ranges at the load levels of fast-burning propellants common to cowboy events. On 44 WCF its .471. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Lots of folks said "ohh, bad juju" but he says he had no problems. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. When Smith & Wesson developed the New Century revolverthe Triple Lock Hand Ejector, the basis of their N-framethey wanted a new cartridge to go with it. The case is a shortened 44 special or Russian and the rim is thinned. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Pistol & Revolver Ammunition. In late 1907 the .44 Russian sired its son, the .44 Special, and was around in late 1955 to see its grandson, the .44 Magnum arrive. Contest open to U.S. residents only. But in 1956 Keith's efforts culminated in the introduction of the .44 Magnum. He offered his hot .44 Special loads through mail order with plenty of success. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. And this is not limited to the cowboy/old west shooters. (II) Limit one entry per household. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. He warped around at the speed of heat, immediately striking and striking again while I desperately crab-walked backward, one-handing shots at him while he, Rival Arms expands its offerings with the X1 Red Dot, a 3 MOA red dot ideally suited for use on defensive pistols, target pistols, rifles, hunting and Quite possibly, for the very first time, all three Gun Cranks agree on something open carry is stupid! Great article! Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: American Handgunner Magazine, GOM May/June 2023, P.O. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Then in 1956 S&W knocked the gun world on its ear by introducing the .44 Remington Magnum with its introductory vehicle being a strengthened N-Frame. WARTHOG, Dirty Rat #600, BOLD #1056, CGCS,GCSAA, NMLRA, NRA, AF&AM, CBBRC. SASS has degenerated into a game of dress up for old baby boomers. First - The 44 Russian case is considerably smaller in diameter than the 44-40 at the base and throughout the entire case dimension. Not much out there better than a .44 rifle! On the left is a Navy Arms replica of a 3rd Model S&W .44 Russian. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. 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