This is as messed up as the JonBenet Ramsey murder. "We also believe this person is from Delphi currently or has previously lived here, visits Delphi on a regular basis or works here," Carter said. The special on HLN was very disappointing. BG pretended to be a policeman when he saw Abby was there too and was pissed that Libby brought a friend. Chadwell is not the first person accused of an abduction crime who has been investigated as a person of interest in the Delphi murders. Holy crap, now that I see the suspect, I can see how someone could have come up with both sketches. Shins. In 1972, it was out of the ordinary in the county still largely rural and small town for a teenager like Delphi, a popular 16-year-old high school junior, to be the victim of a homicide. Just happens he has a dog that he's trained to chase cats or has a dog period? He did not take answers during or after the press conference, however his remarks at the time seemed to indicate that cops believed they were close to zeroing in on the suspect. He lived just 30minutes from where they were killed. Both families maintain that Abby and Libby weren't catfished. Libby and Abby's deaths quickly became an unsolved mystery that was thrust into the national spotlight. She saw the video and confirms a bit. But often decades go by until the perp is caught, do more to luck and happenstance than investigation. Theres a lot of false information out there, he conceded. [R460], I don't understand this either: "Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer." I agree R307, I think this is their man. (Unfortunately the interviewer did not ask him to say "guys down the hill"), FWIW He did have the most interesting thing to say, whether or not it is true is another thing. Sadistic beyond words. R462 That was the fat pedo's reset of his phone. It has been discussed with the FBI, but again, it is currently felt it is close to the evidentiary element. What we know about the notorious Delphi murders as man charged with killings. It's unclear now whether Kline is being investigated as a suspect in the case. I think this thread has a virus or something? The guy in the video is way older. The killer may have been an 'enforcer' for someone to whom a parent owed a debt. Essentially some interrogation transcripts that were supposed to be sealed were posted publicly and then quickly withdrawn not before someone got them. Libby and Abby were dropped off at the trail near Delphis scenic Monon High Bridge, an abandoned railroad bridge over Deer Creek. The parents did a piss poor job of supervising their kids. Maybe a tree branch. The bodies were discovered after a man's attention was drawn to the sight of 2 deer. I thought that there was no sexual assault? R48 Well, I went back and read the original thread on this case (which was real time) and one of the posters on their said his father had a friend on the police force in a neighboring town and that friend has been part of the search party. The wikipedia page only mentions the Indiana State Police. Doug Carter read a few things during the press conference that seemed to come straight from a profiler, designed fuck with the killer's mind. Previously, police could only collect samples from those suspects who were convicted of a felony in the state. This case haunts me. He's wearing several layers of clothes including a hoodie and has stuff tucked under his jacket. Too bad this pos hasn't. The other investigators corroborated Durnells testimony, although under the objection of Garnetts court-appointed attorney, V. Clayton McQuiddy of West Chester, the statement was not read in court. The girls' causes of death have never been disclosed and their killer has never been found. But, I couldn't tell you much more than that. Way back the theory was - one of the girls (A?) Leazenby later announced they were imposing a media blackout on possible suspects in the killings of Libby and Abby moving forward. R216: Regarding the 2/14/2017 (approximate 22:21 time) scanner traffic: Its the dispatcher returning registration info on B*ian and B*njamin Beeks Monticello 2008 light blue Toyota. This goes along with the theory they know who it is. Its 65-70 feet off the river deck. Apparently an agent was home visiting family there when it happened and brought the FBI in. Look at his left ear in the photo and the left ear of the first sketch. Both images, shown below, depict the same white man wearing blue jeans, a blue coat/jacket and a hoodie. R345, we already established that the tattoo was on his arm before the Delphi murders. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). The photos at the link found in R93's thread aren't useful at all, but the info about the two white Dodge Darts is pretty interesting. Surely the sheriffs behavior at the briefing alone raised concern. Q. Too heartbreaking. For other inquiries, Contact Us. There's a reason they want to move you to another area. (1961). Apparently you can get away with killing two people in the middle of a sunny day outside with others AND with video/pictures and audio of your voice. Q. They're probably going to kill you anyway. Ok, that tattoo gave me chills. Few updates have also been shared by police in the more than four years since. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United R481 But if investigators only could tie the father-to-be to the fetus of one of the girls but not place him at the murders, they wouldn't arrest him until they had evidence that links him to the crime. The Monon Trail also passes by the former (now abandoned) estate of Herb Baumeister, who buried some 30+ of his victims on the property. People believe it [though] because its on the internet.. (WLS) -- There is a new All these years later, police still have not given many details about the cause of death to protect the case. ", "I think the voice is just so familiar to all of us," she said. Oh wait, thats one of those girls grandfather at R64. Looking at the guy that was just arrested seems like I am completely wrong. Did they stop recording or was it all CSI could salvage? Anyone here have additional details on the sheriff or have more knowledge with this case? Theyd have to have enough evidence to support a conviction if theyre going to charge him. They did have their phones. I guess they were right. 40s? There has yet to be a break in the case, although authorities believe it just takes one piece of the puzzle to solve the horrific Delphi, Indiana, murders. According to the mugshot linked at r275, the suspect is 5'8", not 5'0", r278 - r280. Honestly, if they used a knife, the decision to not release the COD would be even more strange. Thanks to the poster for the info on the upcoming HLN update. Highly unlikely theyre not in the loop. I think the police probably have an idea of who it was and have much more evidence then we are aware of. What saddens me is that when (if) LE does arrest somebody, they'll crow to the skies in a self-congratulatory haze. No one - especially not someone who the government believes may be in any way involved - should be questioned without legal representation. Klein, who is currently in police custody, was charged in August 2020 with 30 felonies, including child exploitation, possession of child pornography, obstruction of justice, and synthetic identity deception. ENOUGH. And the sister isn't part of the official investigation. In the two years since Libby and Abby were murdered, the evidence released to the public has remained minimal. Ever since the drama with "verifying" the guy who goes by Leigh Kerr on the subreddit, he's completely disappeared, right? The amount of weapons he is carrying give him the appearance of weighing more than he does, and to me it makes he seem older than his real age, jmo. That sort of thing. If someone has knowledge of nonpublic information about the cause of death, they probably did it or know who did. I am starting to wonder if they really dont have much of anything beyond what we have seen. This tragedy brought out so many scummy true crime fame whores. Im not sure how that fits with religious iconography. Q. The police sketch that LE recently released (where the guy looks younger) was actually the first police sketch that was drawn. I didnt see him again that night. James Chadwell should have been killed by the cops whrn they found the naked, sexually abused and beaten till almost dead, 9 year old girl locked in his basement. R384- STOP TRYING TO MAKE CHADWELL HAPPEN Why do you gaf, you creepy asshole. Its some lone poster who think one of the grandfathers or both of them did it. At least information followed into or brought to the attention by the investigators. I never wanted children and dont even like them but this case really bothers me. I wish I wouldn't have watched the video she recorded before bed. My guess is there are inconsistencies between the 2 interviews and they're putting the heat on him to cough somebody up. Your first thought is, the BG was some transient perv who abducted them to rape them. It makes a person nauseous to read it. I do hope she's ok as well. I think you could be right about that being all they have UNLESS everything else is too disturbing (him talking but you can also hear the girls pleading or whatever). Take a look at R428 That does NOT look like a young guy. That and the condition of the bridge could account for the way he was walking. I am not a good judge of age, he looks to be anywhere from late twenties to late thirties, early forties from that photo. WebDelphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK. Last night, I read through a long thread on Reddit and it was frightening, sad, and had information that I hadn't read before. Discover today's celebrity birthdays and explore famous people who share your birthday. Q. I just hope LE has enough evidence against him for a conviction. However, we do not know when the inquiry was made about the Toyota nor if it was even near Delphi. Thank you for the updates. They threaten you, they don't go jump start to killing two people. The fat Keegan Kline could have also informed other local pedos that they told KK that they would be there and KK is not the murderer, but he communicated with the murderer on the dark web / nontraceable apps. Does the suspect have internet access? It sways back and forth and its not something you can just jump on and walk straight across if youve never done it before. The case of Abby and Libbys horrific double-murder remains cold, with tips continuing to roll in, but at least a year since the last Delphi murders update. Mere minutes saved her, poor child. So you're saying you're one of those people who thinks he dug up photos of Libby one or two years BEFORE the murders and tattooed her on his arm before killing her and Abby? Not even close. Both girls had open caskets but had to wear scarves. Right jacket pocket. They released one of the only pictures from the Delphi murders in July of 2017, a full five months after the fact. Women hating bullies identify with him. And dad being bridge guy. I believe we wholeheartedly owe that to these two wonderful young ladies.. I hope this revives momentum in the investigation and finally leads to an arrest. Like they had a name, someone to watch? Im new to the case and Im sure anything I can think of someone has already asked.. Also, they havent really answered questions in the past, why now? And its having one individual with the strength to say that was my brother, thats my dad, or thats my cousin, thats my neighbor, my co-worker. 2. R350, he's walking like that because of the bridge. The process is always working, comparing tips received about the Delphi murders with hundreds of other cases and tips. But posting inside a thread is okay, unless it's one of their delusional political stories. The "guys" and "down the hill" are two sentences spliced for release and in-between is gibberish. February 13, 2017. I wonder if you had to live in that town to know the area they were at? All that I could get my hands on. Investigators withhold evidence from the public all the time to help determine if someone they suspect is actually guilty. The enforcer would come in, commit the crime, cover it up with the second child's murder, and leave the area. R382, they were 13 and 14 and in this day and age, yes you have to be super diligent with kids. This whole case has been weirdly handled by police for years. Is this case the result of two stupid young girls who didn't get the FUCK out of dodge when they had the chance OR a bumbling homicide department? Investigators have released two grainy images from that video that shows a man were to believe was behind the girls on that bridge, a short clip of that man walking, an audio recording of a man presumably the same one saying Guys. She died 12 years later, in 2002, aged 70, from undisclosed causes. [quote]The only thing I can think of is that he was comparing body to body three unusual things done to/with each body. The pouch/fanny pack that the Bridge Guy was wearing may have been a deer kill kit that contained a knife and other things. Where did this new lead go?? Datalounge is glitchy latelyone minute Im one threadthen Im in another. R23 Im not sure the video could include the murdersunless you mean just the audio? It seems pretty in-line with their murders. If you do not like it, please feel free to creep off somewhere else. "Catching this guy is my main goal in life right now. Delphi Lawrence (23 March 1932 11 April 2002) was an English actress. But that is the way he leaves them, I think. Im assuming the killer found out she had it and tried to destroy it and it was found in the water? He convinced her that he loved her and when she agreed to marry him he coldly dumped her and never spoke to her again. He told the jurors that he had indeed given the statement Durnell described to police, but said it had been done so under duress, coerced by a promise to let him see his mother, whom they said had been taken to the hospital upon hearing of his arrest. He said that he had an idea who killed her, and had since she disappeared. I can't imagine the 13-15 year olds he would have been "catfishing" would have any memory or even the devices they owned from back then. A rare development in the case was shared by cops earlier this week when they announced they were hunting for the creator of a bogus social media profile that was grooming underage girls and attempting to meet with them. He deserves life in prison for what he did to the 9 yr old girl, regardless of guilt for the Delphi murders. R28 thats horrific. I'll try to find an interview with Abby's mom that's pretty good. I do hope the killer is not in or related to LE and being protected. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. The townsfolk felt like they were holding their breath all that time, and on October 31, 2022, they could finally exhale. He just needs to know when the trail exists, when it is empty, and that two women entered alone. Thanks for clarifying, r301 - Obviously there's a lot of speculation and wild theories about this crime. Hope to hell I am wrong. I hope the prisoners pull a Dalmer on his ass and beat him to death. Oh Dear, this is so just so close to home! But many times, the mail links are just videos. [quote][R349] Not according to Chadwell's brother in the local news clip. If it predates the Delphi murders, it's likely someone he "memorialized". I really want this guy to pay. Who would remember that years later to the day? But now I just dont know what to think. Sadly, this will die as a cold case. I murdered her, Durnell testified. What a fucking monster. The families sponsored a food drive for charity in the girls' names. This case is just so frustrating. Press J to jump to the feed. LE has really messed up -- particularly waiting too long to release info. They are still at the age/mind set of obeying adults without question, even subconsciously. A. [bold]He doesn't have to be from the area.[/bold]. I think that the escort who blew the whistle on the Lafayette's Men Club that shared girls and subjected them to horrible abuse + the Judge who had to resign could be part of the Delphi Murders. The bridge has slats of decayed wood. The sound editing was much better. I think it's someone they know and with whom they shared their porn files. Even sudden weight loss or gain can greatly alter ones face, giving an appearance of older or younger than their age. Guys, the leaker, Leigh Kerr, will answer questions in an AM(almost)A tomorrow (Sunday) at 6:00pm EST. His family did not speak of the circumstances surrounding Delphis murder, and signs of her had been removed from the familys home on Chestnut Street. These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. I cannot see someone closely involved in the investigation or to law enforcement revealing info that could in any way jeopardize the case. And what if the BG was wearing some kind of disguise? Any neckbeard will do. Forgive me if someone already said this: if the girls knew the killer they would have said his name and it would have been recorded by her phone during the attack. I cant say theres not a threat to the community, Indiana State Police Sgt. R299, the tattoo dates to before the murders, there's a photo of him playing with a puppy in 2016 where he has the tat. To me its his hunched back posture that ages him. James Brian Chadwell II, who pleaded guilty to abducting, beating, and molesting a nine-year-old girl in April, was identified as a potentail suspect earlier this year. That's preposterous. Lawrence says he has begun asking questions about his sisters murder and the case against Garnett in order to learn the truth about what happened after so many years of being kept in the dark about the matter. Like us on Facebook at www.facebook.com/TheSunUS and follow us from our main Twitter account at @TheSunUS, Baby's body found after huge search, as cops quiz Constance Marten & lover, I took pic of son, 18, before his first night out then the worst thing happened, Meg & Harry 'stunned' by King's 'cruel' Frogmore eviction 'punishment', Harry and Meghan evicted from Frogmore Cottage by King Charles after Spare memoir, News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. I dont think theres multiple pieces of the puzzle. Based on comments at r214 u-tube link, sounds like dudes theory is at least interesting . but the narrator is way too slow. Idk why. The teens took a walk down some historic, wooded trails on the east side of town, and ended up stepping onto the old Monon High railroad bridge. Are there any possible POIs who are widely believed to be involved, or does everyone on Reddit have their own pet perp? The guy on the video has nothing to do with the crime, but the cops think he does. If you consider the chief suspect is in prison, I can see them wanting to build their case. False confessions can be quickly discounted if they state a false COD. There was an excerpt of an interview with the Anthony shots guy. R67 You have to wonder what that one girl did to "deserve" that brunt of the attack? State police say the person behind the account used photos of a male model and "portrayed himself as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars.". You cannot know if your truthful answers can link you to a crime without an attorney doing their job for you - they will find out exactly what the government wants to ask, give the attorney copies of any prior interviews or statements you made, perhaps provide videos of you, discuss with the attorney exactly what they are looking for or expect you to know or say and with that information the attorney will discuss your answers with you beforehand. He has a richer sounding name. I'm not sure I'd walk on it period. For more than two years. Why doesn't this redditer just say what it is in summary? She passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. I wonder if investigators could have worked out approximate height from the video, since that would have been a good tip to look out for. They are shooting themselves in the foot if they have no definitive DNA evidence because this case will go nowhere unless they exhaust the evidence they DO have. R171that was my first thought when I checked her facebook pagehe's really into kidsmissing kids. My theory is that it was catfishing through Snapchat to abuse Libby. That suggests posing or staging the scene for later masturbatory purposes. [quote] Payback? Someone on the Reddit thread posted an image. One of her other prominent TV roles was around the same time, in 1961, where she played the countess in episode 6 of the TV historical adventure series SirFrancisDrake ("The English Dragon"). Who knows if thats true. So very tragic. Good observation! Meat packing plant worker?) train, but he is clearly guilty of another crime and i really hope they have some forensic evidence to tie him to the girls murders. That Abby was posed like a doll with her hands folded but not sure what that means. James Brian Chadwell has a tie to Peru, IN where fat pedo lives. Please complete the process by verifying your email address. In the film Wild for Kicks (1960), despite having dialogue and performing a task crucial to the plot, both her name and that of her character, Greta, are missing from the film's closing credits. R42 Feb 15 is a Monday, not Saturday, apologies (again). According to our Database, She has no children. I believe that he threatened them with a gun not with arrest. My guess, BG acted alone and used a knife. R29 Sorry, I wasn't getting at that part. She disappeared that night, however, and was later found dead, tied up and wrapped in a cushioned blanket on the east side of Goose Creek near East Barnard Street in the borough, a month later. Time outside, smoking, drinking have an effect. That's it. R89- How long until the girls were found? (R52)- I totally agree that he knows the area very well and lives there. Nations once lived in Indiana and faced charges in September 2017 for threatening people with a hatchet on a rural trail in Colorado. Anyone walking over it would be moving slow and with hesitation. [The videos] help us know that people dont know [the true details], because the facts havent been released, Holeman said. I guess I need to create an account. I really wonder if this case would have looked different if the families had been wealthy rather than dirt poor. That Robert Lindsay guy requested me on Facebook just after the murders because I commented in a group about the girls. He posed bodies in a horrifying way. Yes indeed, we too use "cookies." The killer could have worn gloves. There is a large meat plant in the area. Social media, although not new does impede our investigation. One thing I believe is that he targeted only one of the girls. I'm not sure that's true, when the obituaries were published, one girl's date of death was the day after the other girl's, indicating that they must have known one died before midnight and one after, some time apart. One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. Everyone in that town seems to know who had killed him, and where his body had been hidden and stored. R474 It's because the Georgia Bureau has experience with child killers and lots of resources at their disposal. I take it with a grain of salt. Investigators need to think outside of what "real drug dealers do" or "real people do" - there is no REALITY to a crime like this. Desperate. William DeLong is a freelance wordsmith. So, it was really, really important. One possibility: The weapon, if there was one, has been determined to be something unusual, so they're waiting for that to show up in a tip. I thought I would beat it all together, he said, according to the Daily Local News. Did this have something to do with the murders? If you see something that doesnt look right, Contact Us. But it's his "type," the type he kills. Very interesting. There is a photo on the internet of Libby in her casket. I wonder if they were taken somewhere else, killed, and their bodies returned to the river after the search was called off. Save a ton of time and money on investigations, get criminals in jail or in electric chairs. The guy was a stranger to them. 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