He indicated it was a timing chain waiting to fail- do you agree? Thank you in advance. You referenced this TSB in your comment to Ronnie back in 2017. Last question- if it is a failing timing chain- is this a something best repaired in a couple weeks, or do I have a few months. . They unlock only when oil pressure is applied. I bought 2012 X1 with 85,000km and after reading different posts makes me worried about the timing chain issue, I called the dealer they said there is no recall on this vehicle except driver side air bag! And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. Thanks. 61 21 528 Refer to KSD2 Charging battery This is a common issue on the N20 engine. Today I changed Chain tensioner as preventative maintenance, but soon I start the car, I got Drivetrain Malfunction. Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. Yann Wehrling, vice-prsident de la rgion le-de-France, charg de la Transition cologique, et Patrice Leclerc, maire de Gennevilliers et Prsident du groupe Front De Gauche la . C. Most likely you have broken timing chain guides and the whole timing set will need to be replaced. I bought a used 2012 528i with 109k miles about 4 months ago. After several engine stop/start cycles there were still no faults. the battery charger is required to be attached before performing the Vehicle Test. dtc are 131401 and 131501 . What should I do next? What me be causing this? I have maintained it meticulously. Rather it is no cost extended warranty in Canada. diagnosis system checking faults) My car, BMW 320i 2014 with N20 Engine, with 33K Miles on the clock, is just broke down with a drive train error. Note that ISTA/P will automatically reprogram and code all programmable control modules that do Cheers. The car has 103,000 miles. This website is not affiliated with BMW AG in any way, and should not be confused with the websites of BMW AG, BMW M GmbH. Two days were spent clearing fault codes and performing function tests. When the VANOS units were removed there was no visible trash. We purchased it from a BMW dealership, they didnt mention any potential issues with the timing chain components. I checked the timing chain, it looks fine. I am troubleshooting an issue with it already for weeks now and unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause yet. So your car software level is July of 2019,,,,this is when it was last updated,,,so your car has fairly new software. Is there a or way trick to clear the code without seeing a mechanic or using a code reader?ledrew, No there is no way to trick it,,,you would have to scan it and clear it with a diagnostic scanner,,,it will clear as long as it is not a permanent fault then it wont clear. If so, can i buy the warranty for a used car now? Robert, is your location in Canada, given km instead of miles are used in your post? I dont want to sell the car because nobody is going to give me what I bought it for. Changed the oil filter and OIL. Cost for the strap $7.49. Yes it does not say no signal. Hi, I recently bought a 2012 X1 xDrive28i. The oil filter element appears to collapsed / sucked in at the center. no dtc but it complete its combustion cycle i check for spark, fuel and compression was reading ok on all 4 cylinder but there black smoke and strong gas smell out the exhaust.I allso found wire harness for dinantronics box which is pigger back to DME was rubbing under the eng. The spark plug have nothing to do with this problem,,,,they would cause misfires,,,I would think you should get some kind of signal from camshaft angle,,,,are you sure everything is plugged in correctly, Hello, My exhaust cam is retarding to the most far point , I time the engine with kit, locking crank, cam shaft and vanos. If performing other ISTA diagnostics and related test plans results with eligible and covered The only odd result is that the desired angles of 0 and 0.6 had actual angles that were off by ~8 degrees. What are related problems? The engine sounds exactly the same as the first time it started after the timing chain installation. cover and expose some wires and by moving around stuff they was rubbing together and i had the battery connect at that time too.need some help please thank in advance, Ok,,,,you said you smell gas and black smoke out of the exhaust, and you have wiring harness damage to Dinan piggy back,,,I would think this is your problem the harness is damaged and can be causing your problem with the fuel injectors dumping to much fuel into the engine,,,you can remove the spark plugs and see if they are fuel soaked to verify this problem,,,,I dont know if you can remove the Dinan piggy back and put it back to stock.,,,I hope this helps, Update on my car was other human error wrong timing was locking the camshaft with lobs facing down, i correct it and veh stated up right away..THANKS for taking time to assess me. Hi, The hardcore BMW fan base could not help but fall in love with the spritely performance offered by this upgraded engine. If I reach my finger in through oil filler cap with the engine off and cold, is it normal for there to be some slack in the timing chain on an N20? I ask because here ethanol is not too widespread and should not represent more than 1% of vehicles on the gasoline market. Also that didnt make a difference and fault is still on outlet side. There were no faults. Do you think it has to do something with the timing belt. Sorry I dont see any video,,,,ok when you say the starter and engine dont appear to make attempt to start,,,,,question does the engine turn over when you are trying to start the car,,,,,question does the engine make any sound when trying to start the car,,,if the engine does not turn over when trying to start car,,,,try and turn the engine by hand from the front lower crankshaft bolt and see if the engine will turn. 2D5B VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached 131501-VANOS inlet, cold start not consolable. Clean both solenoids and reinstall. possible oil pump chain broken? Also can sparkplugs have any influence to this situation? Maybe I should replace them? thanks, You might want to look at the timing chain on a N20,,,that can cause a lot of different problem, Your email address will not be published. The last oil change was two years ago but only 2200 miles were driven. Earlier this week I took my 2012 328i to dealership because check engine light came on. Can the N20 Vanos valve be replaced through the actuator hole without removing the valve cover and locking the cams? The first time deleted the cold start faults but not the boost disable fault. I appreciate any input. Whether the engine is cold or warm, the VANOS faults appear within 15 seconds of startup. 2D54 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable For information on programming and coding with ISTA/P, refer to Thank you!! Can the timing chain issue be identified through scoping? Location: Chicago. But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. The boost disable was cleared by itself. I am also concerned , like every other n20 owner, that it will grenade eventually. He discovered it was the engine to chassis ground strap. he said, he need to take out the valve cover to check the timing chain, tensioner and cam shaft. It would get to 17% and quit. Just realized the cut off is February 2015, not 2014. E84 and E89: when he took a test drive, the codes again cam back. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable 131808 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached . I know there has been a lot of people complaining to BMW NA about this problem,,,I think there is a case where people are trying to sue BMW over the timing chain issue,,,one of the problems is none of the other BMW have this problem only the N20-N26. Thank you for your time and expertise. 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence Il motore N20 esordisce nel marzo 2011 sotto il cofano della BMW X1 xDrive28i, ed in versione da 245 CV, ma sei mesi dopo stato affiancato da una versione depotenziata, in grado comunque di sviluppare 184 CV. The dealership should be interested in fixing it because it means money for the tech and for the dealership,,,,that doesnt make any sense. I took it to the bmw for a diagnostic and they said that Im just better off replacing the engine than trying to find out what is wrong with the car. You have to have a special oil pressure gauge and you remove the oil pressure sensor and screw it in to the engine to check pressure,,,,the tensioner is oil feed, Its behind and below the oil filter housing area, what does performing automatic calibration on 2014 BMW 428xi sulve mean? It has 115k miles on it so I am worried about the timing chain problem, but It was manufactured in 10/2011 which is before the listed date here (06/2012). Turbo engines are more complex and require several . I have a X1 E84 with the N20 engine. I did not receive this bulletin to my knowledge, maybe because I am the 2nd owner of the car as of February 2019(?). Thanks for this. procedure outlined below. When retrieving BMW check engine light codes with an OBD II scan tool, proceed as follows: 1. Engine Would there be a difference between our 2 continents with regard to production? The crank pin to hold at TDC goes through the tiny hole pointing to the rear of the car by the catalytic converter, the only thing this would be able to hold onto would be the flex plate/flywheel. iTrader: ( 0) After change chain tensioner - Drivetrain Malfunction. Hi Im planning to buy a second hand 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25) and its about 65000 miles now. Yes it should,,,,but sometimes some random faults might still be their, The service engine light has not cleared. I bought an x3 28ix build on 07/2015, model 2016 with 124000km. It goes from 0 8 kpa and back to 0 will cranking do you have any idea what that reading should be on the fuel rail. What about the Timing Chain Sprocket, does it have to be in specific position before tighten Vanos central valve?! It should show something like incorrect angle/position. your input is much apreciated, There a BMW sib 12 15 13 which says this problem is due to a software issue with the DME ,,,,you need to program the vehicle,,,,you can see the bulletin on the Internet. Usually the Vanos units lock in its default position when engine is turned off. she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly and if necessary, also Ok,,,a couple of question,,,you said you tested the vanos solenoid but have you replaced them,,,also have the vanos unit been replaced?,,,,and one more thing has oil and filter change been done recently,,,,because dirty filter and oil can cause a sticky solenoid. This is due to a diagnostic programming error in the DME. F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 / F34 / F36 (2012 - current). Andreas first and foremost thank you for sharing your knowledge. or F30 Ive got a 2014 320i with 36,000 miles. with the following integration levels: I took it to the dealership for a diagnostic test and check-up. The oil was black though. It is possible without the timing tools, but if you risk needing to re-time the engine if something moves. Maybe a stupid question but I noticed the f31 328i xdrive is mentioned on the form but not the rw ? It gave the code 2D61 VANOS Outlet control, position not reached. It appears to be a relatively simple, .5 hr swap. F10 You are correct almost all the problem are in the States,,,all the engines are built in the same plant,,,there is a good chance that the fuel is the cause of these problems,,,,yes it is a good thing your car is not on the list. Now im getting vanos inlet, outlet codes, along with vanos camshaft jammed for both intake and exhaust. Connect scan tool to the 16-pin data link connector (DLC) located underneath the steering column. My engine shut of while idle in park. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: I was told by a mechanic that the engine was done, simply by information from a scan. 131908-VANOS inlet: cold start, Position not reached. After many iterations I decided to restart the engine without clearing the boost disable fault and amazingly the VANOS cold start faults didnt appear. Defect Code: 11 36 01 96 00 I called BMW and they said no recalls on the car and told me to take it to a BWM Official garage. I dont expect we will put more than 5-6k kilometers per year on it. Ive enjoyed your blog and I hope you will start posting again. Cloning means making full copy of ISN files from original DME and copy it over to use DME, So what happens if the ISN files are corrupted and you just copied it over to the other DMEare the pins damaged on the original DME ,,,or are the connection on the harness damage,,,,we just had a car last mouth where the harness was damaged for the fuel injector signals causing fuel to dump,,,the harness was damaged on the connector for the DME,,,you might have to perform OHM test on the harness to make sure the harness and connections are good. Sorry there are no replacement bolts for the N20 vanes unit that I know of,,,,,yes they are aluminum,,,the N20 and N26 vanes unit are not common to break not like the older one on N51 and N52, No, no thanks for the input. Code 132408 Vanos Exhaust Intake camshaft not locking at start up While mine does have some kind ofticking noise when it starts up, and I had noticed it prior to buying it, a mechanic I had check out the vehicle prior to the purchase said that all BMW engines make that noise and it is nothing to worry about. No one knows what this CDA904 code means. E84 and E89: 61 00 006 WT Performing vehicle diagnosis test What could be the problem? 130108 Dont they use the same spec N20 engine just with a slight bump in power for the 28i version? Nic. Turn the ignition on. I had to replace the valve lifters. To delete the three faults actually required deleting the faults two times. I remove the spark plugs all 4 complete soaked and i also remove the Dinan piggy back complete and connect harness direct to DME I also replace the DME with use one [CLONE] still no start but i notice when i crack one of the injector line the fuel pressure is very low which normal be busting out the lines, fuel pump shaft is not broken and no DTC. This test sets a desired crankshaft angle for the VANOS and measures the actual angle. 131401 also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? Thank you, No still would be concern,,,,I dont know if they used a different timing chain guide before 6/2012. Labor operation code 00 00 006 is a Main labor operation. 61 00 710 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. (with CAS) What's even more exciting about the N20 engine is that this four-cylinder engine is capable of generating a stunning power of 240 HP and a sizzling torque of 260 lb-ft. 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Its a bit like on the list, the block of 20i and 28i is quite close, so why one seems more impacted than the other (the higher torque?). With the VANOS solenoids removed, the spring loaded VANOS spool valve moved in and out easily. Hi greatings from Norway i have also a Bmw 320i GT-xdrive with 97k-km i dont hear any winning on the chain.I dont find in your list f34 320i Gt from 07.2013 that means that is not afected or just is not on the list i called allso BMW-and they said that my car is not on the extendet waranty list.Im verry stresed with this timming chain issue every time when i go on the car i listen to the engine is like ridding a time bomb.I am paning to change the timming chain at 150k-km even if is not making the noise.And whi there so many 328i afected and 320i not does it matter if mine is a xdrive?does the chain is more under load fi the care is x-drive? Warranty. We rebuilt it. The cost of diagnosing the P052B BMW code is 1.0 hour of labor. Hi, I own a 2012 BMW X1 that recently developed a timing chain problem. I have checked timing multiple times, I found this article online and this is what Im thinking right now!! Here is a video of whats happening today. Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B12 15 13 dated September 2013. Thank you. The warrantee was in place until 2019. When I go to accelerate now, the engine lags. If you are interested here is the rest of the story. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable In US the N20/N26 timing chain extended limited warranty is 7 years/70000 miles, so what is extended coverage available in your country? hello i have a 2013 bmw x3 from a family friend with n20 SB-10053485-8362 not have the latest software. 2. Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? I have a SULEV vehicle so its definitely an N20 engine. Checked the Camshaft Journal Caps. Hi bmwtechnician, As the outgoing N52 and N53 were reliable engines, the BMW N20 had big shoes to fill, especially given its turbocharged design. I know impulse sending wheels and camshaft they need to be lined up using a special tool. or ground from chassis to engine? Changed the exhaust VANOS. Loaner vehicle was included. This documentation is not necessary when part of an approved Technical Service repair procedure; The engine is running and seems to run pretty good although its still has that ticking sound that it had before. Hi,,,yes your car is not on the list but that doesnt mean that it still has this problem,,,and since your car is 4 wheel drive the chain is not being used more it is the same on both 4 wheel drive and rear wheel drive,,,,now if you want to keep the vehicle it is a good idea to replace the timing chain and rails and oil pump chain for safety reasons. F25 DME. Then I used ISTA and diagnosed the exhaust side. The car is as we speak back to the dealer for further diagnose and they have seen a slight difference in the crankshaft position or something like that.. one of the shafts was not in the correct angle. One last question about dirty oil. only be fixed if it seems like my car will experience the issue (like if they hear the rattling noise that commenters have mentioned/you replied about. Thanks, The charge pressure fault is probably due to the the vanos fault,,,,it looks like you replaced all the general stuff already and you are sure the timing is correct,,,,,you said the engine had low water damage what does that mean,,,is it possible the exhaust camshaft is binding,,,,you might want to check the exhaust camshaft journal caps. In your post it appears to be some play in the DME test a. Im thinking right now! hope you will start posting again diagnosis test what could be the?! 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