Mark had even been given a codename, 47695, and been provided with an abort code, 6969, should the mission be cancelled. Rachel was then apparently released by Kevin, although she would mysteriously disappear from the chat room shortly after. ", Boy A thought he was carrying out the orders of a British spy, The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites, 28 May 04 The 14-year-old boy, dubbed Boy B in court, created a series of fictional characters in chatrooms, one of which ordered Boy A to murder him. She was previously CEO of News International from 2009 to 2011 and was the youngest editor of a British national newspaper at News of the World, from 2000 to 2003, and the first female editor of The Sun, from 2003 . But it wasn't just the virtual Mark whom John loved. In the universe he inhabited, there was, John felt, no one to sustain himexcept on the Internet, which he peopled with characters of his own device. As they poured through the copy, they initially believed they were looking for a paedophile pretending to be Janet and grooming Mark. A 15-year-old boy has died after police say he was stabbed at the Brimbank Shopping Centre in the Melbourne suburb of Deer Park. And he would sit and read a book rather than talk with his friends," she revealed. "And sometimes it would be a week or a few weeks before that character came back," always without a hitch, Hogg says. None of it? John returned to his laptop. If the 14-year-old painstakingly arranged for his own execution in an MSN chat room and chose Mark for the job, it wasn't out of wickedness. The Montreal Mafia Murders: Blood, Gore, Cannolis, and Hockey Bags, Palace Insiders Say Prince William Is Already Furious About Prince Harrys Memoir Leaks, Prince Harry alleges Prince William attacked him over Meghan Markle in a new excerpt from, Prince Harry on Williams Hairline and Their Wicked Stepmother. A 15-year-old boy has been killed and his mother injured after they were both stabbed at a house in Manchester. Boy A: ok erm well i watch a lot of films, 9.57pm Spy: change of plan dnt wear glove pull knife out and say you took it out. From his hospital bed, John said he had been stabbed by Mark but "he didn't know why". which arises here," he said. A 16-year-old boy has been stabbed repeatedly outside Manchester's Arndale Centre. "He manipulated him," says Hogg. Young Johnas the hopelessly credulous Mark was informed by the spy Dobinsonhad a slow-growing but terminal brain tumor. Certainly not with his mother, who noticed that the more time her son spent online the more he was becoming "secretive" and snappish. For the past six months, Mark had communicated with a variety of people on the chat room, a site dedicated to Manchester teenagers. 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"Skilled writers of fiction would struggle to conjure up a plot such as arises here." Which wasn't, unfortunately, saying much. She added: "It sounds so far-fetched that he could have been absorbed by it but there was nothing in the body of the text that would have made him suspicious. He misses him terribly, even while recognizing, as he puts it, "the friendship with Mark was fake." Being middle-aged, she is "not with teenage talk," Dobinson admonishes Mark in the chat room, and she requests communication in more adult language. 01:25 AEDT 29 May 2004 When it was unveiled in court, Mark couldnt believe hed been so gullible. said one message. People will hear, please be quiet," the older teenager told him. The teenager was taken to hospital as well following his injuries but died around an hour after arriving. Shortly after her appearance, John suddenly emerged in the chat room as himself (saying that he was Rachel's brother), and these two were followed by still other fantastical alter egos equipped with wild backgrounds but dull, repetitive names: Lyndsey East, Rachel East, Kevin McGregory, Dave McNeil, Janet Dobinson. But this time John also was chargedwith inciting murder. And she stained my sheets when she was bleeding! As Mark would discover on the chat-room site, Rachel, along with her "brother" John, were in a state of ceaseless peril, threatened with abduction and rape by a self-proclaimed homosexual stalker named KevinJohn's fourth character. The attack left John, a promising grammar school student, close to death. The teenager was with his friends when. Also, John is certain that people are always talking about him once they believe him to be out of earshot. Two of them ceased writing after meeting up with sorry fates: rape, murder, a coma, a baby born during the comaplot twists so messy and operatic that police had to provide themselves with stacks of names and huge piles of colored charts to sort things out. Despite his mother's pleas, the teenager was put on a waiting list. The world he had known was John, written, produced, and directed by John. In contrast to such frightening cunning, the blundering stupidity of Markthe actual knife wieldercomes as something of a relief. Once John had introduced himself as Rachel's brother, the two boys just clicked, John was later to explain. thats wot ur asking? Detectives launched a murder inquiry after a mother and son were both stabbed at a house in Miles. A murder investigation is underway after a 14-year-old boy was stabbed to death in a "ferocious attack." He was injured alongside his mother, 40, who is currently in hospital. Earlier this month, a 15-year-old teenage boy was also stabbed to death in Walker Avenue, in Bolton, in another separate attack. "But these could not be described as any normal circumstances," the judge added. At the time. According to Janet, John was the single most important person in the country, as he knew the code to access a secret safe hidden at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean that only a few countries knew about. There were no demands to see Janet Dobinson, who had sworn that she would engineer his freedom. Most views are considerably less indulgent. Detective Chief Inspector Alicia Smith said: 'This attack has left a community. Much later, after months of wrong turns and huge confusion, the police would be very impressed by his skill. Police. 'It's a show that I'm passionate about': Will Mellor on 'Cops Who Kill', communicating with via an Internet chat room. Friday 3 December 2021, 5:53pm. (After this, there was to be a meeting between Mark and a grateful Prime Minister Tony Blair.) Not at home: "It doesn't suit me, being part of a family environment, being sucked in," he says. On Sunday 29 June 2003, Mark brought a kitchen knife under the pretence it was for his mother, carefully avoided the CCTV cameras Janet had warned him about and entered the alley with John. ", As for John, he, too, was getting what he wanted from his friend, as Dr. Smedley would later recount: "He described a feeling of emotional intimacy he had never experienced before.". A multitude of other people had also apparently come and gone on the chat room during this period. "Staggering," said the judge who would hear his case. Although evidently preoccupied with problems at the most exalted levels of government ("Hiya Babes. Authorities allege she fatally stabbed John Glennon on Friday in Manchester, New Hampshire. No man in his life had ever meant much to him: he had no recollection of his biological fatherwho had, John's mother later told her son's therapist, not only abducted their son when he was a baby but also abused her physically and sexually. "He said it was important to him to keep Mark as his friend and he was not confident that Mark would be interested in just speaking to John.". These documents sketch a different, complex picture of John, victim and criminal. On 26 July 2020, 4 people were stabbed in Moss Side in Manchester, England, 17-year-old Mohamoud Mohamed died at the scene. Almost nothing consequential came out, as the lawyer representing the Manchester Evening News, the Daily Mail, and The Sun complained. A 17-year-old boy died after a horror street fight involving more than 100 people including some armed with 'machetes' on Saturday night (Saturday, September 4) in East London. They are proud, existential boasts stuffed with lies: livinitlargelad@hotmail.com and livinitlargeladdy@hotmail.com. We let social media get away with murder. A teenager has been charged with murder after a 16-year-old boy was stabbed to death . 3-min read. To this day, a British media Web site carries a picture of John, his engaging, shy smile shadowed by a tender hint of mustache. A new feeling took hold: "Wanting my life to end" was how John described it. Thanks very much. must stop st8 away with 6969," Dobinson warned Mark, thus neatly uniting her creator's two major obsessions, sex and death. When pressed, he told law enforcers only as much as he suspected they already knewor might soon discover. Writing only in capital letters, Janet convinced Mark she was a spy and he was the reason she had joined the chat room, to recruit him into MI5. The police appealed for witnesses whilst seizing CCTV footage of the surrounding area. "It has to be big to stab him and make him bleed to death.". He brought into play Janet Dobinson"a spy, said John. "I was surprised Mark believed it all," John would later admit. Nonetheless, there were enough absurdities to warrant re-examination. As Clarke spoke about how John had manipulated the older boy, deploying a stream of imaginary virtual characters to lure Mark into carrying out his murder, he sneaked a look at Mark's face. John and Mark then physically met, as did their parents, but in the chatroom John introduced increasingly far-fetched characters, including another boy who "stalked" John and supposedly killed his girlfriend. It didn't take the older boy very long to overcome his inhibitions. Both sets of parents decided there would be no more sleepovers. At 13, upon receiving a laptop from his mother (a homework enhancer, she thought), John became a habitu of the Internet. To prevent such tragedy, Mark was told, he had to perform sexual tasks in view of the Webcam to gratify the stalker himself. "Because he had the friendship with Rachel and Janet.". A deliberate stylistic variation of "maybe," shared by four supposedly different people. "So when he'd gone through the humiliating task of masturbating on the Webcam, 'Kevin' then abducted his girlfriend. No mention of sunken treasure, fatal tumors, or Tony Blair. Under the keyboard of his computer he kept a kitchen knife. But he could not say when the moment of enlightenment would have come for his friend. But more than 500 pages of Internet-chat transcripts, 50 pages of psychological reports, and excerpts from a score of police interviews land in my possession. Passing sentence Judge Maddison said: "Skilled writers of fiction would struggle to conjure up a plot such as that which arises here. At first it seemed as though a brutal, but straightforward, robbery had gone wrong. The police concluded John was the mastermind behind it all; he was every character in that chat room, the puppet master pulling the strings whilst Mark played the role of puppet. Friday 17 September 2021, 10:51am. John was careful to find an excuse for a certain character to disappear so a new one could enter the online chat. "He would become withdrawn. "I would say things that wouldn't make sense." 26 Feb Feb Thus, the stories that emerged about John were a feeble compilation of bare-bones facts and judgments spoon-fed by the authorities. "No offence but wot does she do neway?" At the end of May, the teenagers, their lawyers, and the press gathered in Judge Maddison's courtroom, where neither boy so much as glanced at the other. In her line of work, after all, she was expert at assuming all sorts of identities. This, however, made little difference; at night the boy would manage to retrieve and re-assemble the laptop and modem. 17,029 pages were read in the last minute. "In fact, I think MSN themselves should perhaps take some responsibility. ", Detective Chief Inspector Julian Ross said John's actions remained baffling. His mother, an office manager, also disappoints him, he suggested to therapists. On the whole, John's mother honestly couldn't see what her bright son saw in his less academically inclined new friend. "It's a hard life!" He was infatuated with this woman. On the whole, Goldberg thought, a teenager who could spin such tales was headed in the right direction. Nov. 29, 2022. "And so if you are talking about safety, that's one of the big dangers. Boy A, a 15-year-old, stabbed Boy B twice, but he did not die, Manchester Crown Court heard. Mark was a college student who worked part-time at a restaurant. Why hasten the inevitable? You can take any identity you want.". But by the time of a crucial chatroom conversation on 28 June, Mark was still convinced by the order - from the "spy" - to kill John. I didn't like it, I couldn't undo it, it was all fake, taking someone else in." This time the order came from Tony Blair himself, via Janet. "If it is strangers, they are saying I am a Paki and a terrorist," he says. The answer as to why is still up for debate but some claim he loved John to the point where he knew Mark would not reciprocate if the truth were ever revealed. They were empty of hope. When the murder was completed, Mark would, Dobinson promised, be in very good hands: "I will be a 'detective superintendent.'". The teenager died in hospital after he was found with stab wounds following a. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Boy A: ok but it will only hve one set of fingerprints? Janet: Could you stab someone?Mark: I haven't really thought about it. Janet: Well think please.Mark: OK. Somehow or other, the boy added, he found himself dragged once again to his feet, then the knife plunged back in. Early 20s, wearing a black hooded jacket and black jeans. "I couldn't go home and carry on with this fantasy," John would later confide. His motive? In legal terms, it was unique in British criminal history. But that was because police had possession of the computers and were bound to find out about her anyway. I prob wud but i wanna kno y. Mark pleaded guilty to attempted murder, was given a two-year supervision order and banned from any contact with John. "Could you stab someone?" All this took place on June 29, 2003, a very hot Sunday, in a small alleyway in an area that goes by the charming name of Goose Green. By all accounts he too, like Mark, was an ordinary teenager, nothing in his history would suggest hed be involved in something so terrible. If those numbers were uttered on the sunbaked streets of Altrincham, by the shopping center, Mark was told, John would be allowed to live. ", About his bent for invention John was manifestly ambivalent. "What emerges from this is an extraordinarily persuasive, inventive boy!" It was out of fear. Off you go.'" "I wanted to be dead," John told his therapisthe finally has one. 10 June 2022. Uwant me 2 kill him ?? Judy Bachrach is a Vanity Fair contributing editor and the author of Tina and Harry Come to America: Tina Brown, Harry Evans, and the Uses of Power (Free Press). All rights reserved. A grammar school scholarship boy stabbed through the heart by his ex-public school friend was a "peacemaker", his sister told the inquest into his death. Lyndsey East, who had briefly enchanted him and then disappeared without a word of good-bye, was John. "The 14-year-old boy showed no intention to hurt anybody but himself," he Around 12:27 a.m. on Tuesday, Nov. 29, 2022, police said,. As solace, John eventually allowed Rachel to return from the dead, at which time it was explained that she had simply slipped into "a coma," and had, moreover, despite her previous conditionand the fact that she had never actually met himgiven birth to Mark's baby. Emergency services were called to the . The beautiful Rachel West, whom he had loved, wooed, and honestly mourned, was Johnas was Kevin, who reveled in the bloody details of her gang rape and murder. Within short order, a devastated Mark was to learn his virtual girlfriend was deadgang-raped and then murdered by the mythical stalker and his cohorts. If he carried out the job successfully, he was told, he would be accepted as a spy. Posing as the spy on the internet, and promising him sex and cash, Boy B sent messages to Boy A to stab him to death. The crucial character in the deception was a 42-year-old British secret agent called Janet. "When will I c u?" 'Spy': well think please A great deal of thought went into her gestation. For instance, both liked Catch Me if You Can, a movie in which Leonardo DiCaprio plays an adolescent con man who effortlessly assumes multiple identities. Into the chat room, therefore, came a new character, Lyndsey East, equipped with all that was required for instant membershipLyndseyeast2k3@hotmail.com. Spy: i wouldnt ask if it wasnt important? Murderers? To make matters worse, the police went out and arrested a shop assistant with the same name as one of the charactersonly, the poor girl was perfectly innocent. Wot shud i say 2 him? "Angry and upset" was how he later described his reaction to the news about his "girlfriend." But the court was told that in reality Boy B had fallen in love with Boy A, conned him into performing sex acts on a webcam, and tricked him into stabbing him twice in Altrincham, Greater Manchester. To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. He did reasonably well at school, although he wasn't the most academic person. "It was like satisfying a craving, you had to be on there, you had to be doing it." A man has been arrested in Kent on suspicion of murder after a boy died in north Manchester on 9 June 2022. Mark never noticed. It is a spasm of regret that goes unmentioned by police and lawyers alike in my conversations with them. Hed been asked to do so by a British spy mistress called Janet Dobinson, who hed been communicating with via an Internet chat room. 3 in the hierarchy of the British secret service, as she informs correspondents), on whom John clearly lavished special effort. Police used traffic cameras to track the vehicle, which led Beard to be pulled over near a Dorchester. If he completed his mission hed become a member of the British Secret Service, receive 80 million, meet Tony Blair (the then PM), the Queen and receive sexual favours from Janet, a 44-year-old married woman who lived a double life for Queen and country. Both gangs are believed to have grown out of Manchester's notorious Gooch and Doddington outfits. Credit: MEN Media. When a 14-year-old British boy was savagely stabbed, no one could have imagined the bizarre chat-room fantasy world that lay behind the attack. Even though, thanks to the Internet, anyone who wishes can access all relevant information. What appeared on the screen was a revelation of flattering significance: "This is the UK's biggest secret I CAN TRUST YOU WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO LOOK AT YOU WHILE I TELL YOU?". Over a nine-month period before the attempted murder, John began presenting himself as a 16-year-old girl in search of a cyber relationship, then "introduced" himself as the girl's step-brother. 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